Will America end themselves by starting a war?

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Will America end themselves by starting a war?
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 28 2011, 03:05 AM (1,058 Views)
DanielSan	Nov 28 2011, 03:05 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,536 Group: Donator Member #5,730 Joined: February 14, 2011	We have been in Iraq for years and just getting out. But we are sending them over the Afgan. We are fighting false wars for oli. I think the leaders of this country have gone pretty far. We are even worse than the Nazis in invading countries. I fear that we will get our selves killed before anything. Now I am not hating my country but I am hating the fact we are in these wars. To be honest I think this country is near evil sometimes. What do you think of this? Do you think America is getting into more wars than they can handle. Are these wars unjust. America is the only one doing this right now. Bush is wanted as a war criminal in one country. Yes we have gone that far. I don't remember hearing any other country having a leader wanted.



+ Pelador	Nov 28 2011, 03:12 AM Post #2
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I think that America's own government will be its downfall unless things start changing for the better soon. Not nesecarilly because of war but because neither Republican not Democrat will budge on important, social economic legislation which could make it a better place. All because one party can't be seen to agree with another. It's stuck in a rutt and won't budge. Stagnation will soon become apparent and with stagnatuion comes decline and civil unrest. Which America has shown consistently it doesn't deal with very well. Which will inevitably lead to even more unrest and possibly a revolution. An extreme view maybe, but possible.
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Ani-Nation	Nov 28 2011, 03:20 AM Post #3
Posts: 2,751 Group: Members Member #6,334 Joined: June 9, 2011	I think they said we're pulling out of Afghanistan around 2014. I guess it would really depend on who takes over the country in 2013. Quote: I am hating the fact we are in these wars. Most of America dislikes the wars we're in. I seriously doubt we'll go through a revolution or anything like that.



+ Pelador	Nov 28 2011, 03:27 AM Post #4
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Isn't the Presidential election next year though? Or do you mean takes over Afghanistan? Afghanistan already has a government. They're generally very peaceful and friendly people. I don't know about the true nature of the Taliban though. I doubt the government would allow us to hear stories of occurences where they are friendly.
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Ani-Nation	Nov 28 2011, 03:29 AM Post #5
Posts: 2,751 Group: Members Member #6,334 Joined: June 9, 2011	If a new president is elected he would be inaugurated in 2013. From what I hear all we're really doing in Afghanistan is nation building. Edited by Ani-Nation, Nov 28 2011, 03:30 AM.



Optimus Banana	Nov 28 2011, 03:47 AM Post #6
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Ani-Nation Nov 28 2011, 03:29 AM If a new president is elected he would be inaugurated in 2013. From what I hear all we're really doing in Afghanistan is nation building. Ha we destroy then rebuild.. I really don't like my government and neither does my dad. He is even considering moving to Canada once me and my sister leave the house. They always shove their nose up other countries business. I couldnt tell you how many military outposts we have in foreign countries. I think we should help and feed the homeless here and fix everything wrong here before we start worrying about natural disasters across the ocean. It seems the government also likes to keep a record of everything everyone does and snoops rather then spending time wisely. There is all this talk about Protect IP and that bill S something something something where they can arrest you and delete websites over what you post, yet you here nothing solving our economic troubles. It's so stupid and people complain, but they do nothing. Quote: Watch the whole thing. The first half of the video is General Wesley Clark revealing in 2007 that US planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years, including Iran. Essentially whistle blowing. Now just two weeks ago the same man is on CNN justifying an invasion in Iran. As an American citizen, things like this scare the hell out of me. Not just the misinformation, but when our economy was at its worst, going to war brought us out. The stage is set for another economy boost. Edited by Optimus Banana, Nov 28 2011, 03:58 AM.
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+ Pelador	Nov 28 2011, 04:06 AM Post #7
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Afghanistan already has a government. Whether it's a pupper regime or not is debatable. But I'm really not sure the place is as bad as the media makes out. Not all wars gives the economy a boost. After Vietnam there was a pretty big depression. America should not worry about Iran. It has no nukes and is no threat to anyone. Although it might want to nab it's oil supply. H owever I think Pakistan may soon become a problem. They rightly keep blocking American troops from entering Afghanistan through it after America kills it civilians in air raids targeting Taliban forces. I'd be pretty pissed too if some foreign country was killing my people and using my country as an attack base.
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Mihawk	Nov 28 2011, 04:29 AM Post #8
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Canada Foreign policy = Don't get in other people's business. Foreign trade = Open. Foreign charity/help = Yes, other than military. So it's not isolationist, just smart. They don't have to deal with any security problems in comparison to ours even though they allow immigrants from all nationalities almost freely.



+ Pelador	Nov 28 2011, 04:37 AM Post #9
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Canada is like if the American government was nice. I'm not sure but I think they have some forces helping in Afghanistan. America could learn a lot from Canada but for some reason it seems to look down it's nose at it. Even though Canada is arguably a better place to live.
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Mihawk	Nov 28 2011, 04:41 AM Post #10
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Pelador Nov 28 2011, 04:37 AM Canada is like if the American government was nice. I'm not sure but I think they have some forces helping in Afghanistan. America could learn a lot from Canada but for some reason it seems to look down it's nose at it. Even though Canada is arguably a better place to live. Quote: Canada’s efforts in Afghanistan are focused on four priorities: (1) investing in the future of Afghan children and youth through development programming in education and health; (2) advancing security, the rule of law and human rights, through the provision of up to 950 CF trainers, support personnel, and approximately 45 Canadian civilian police to help train Afghan National Security Forces; (3) promoting regional diplomacy; and (4) helping deliver humanitarian assistance. source: http://www.afghanistan.gc.ca/canada-afghanistan/index.aspx?view=d They aren't doing anything other than what they should be doing. Canada could possibly be better place right now in terms of jobs and healthcare. But overall I've been to both places and I'd rather live here. But my opinion could be bias since I'm self employed.



Cal	Nov 30 2011, 11:51 AM Post #11
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Everyone who posted in this thread should NOT major in poilitics. That is all.



SirParagon	Nov 30 2011, 01:40 PM Post #12
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	There is no positive future for the American government, it's like trying to salvage the half-sunken Titanic, they hit the ice-berg way back. The worst part is that most of the world's economy is linked to USA. Expect desperate measures. Edited by SirParagon, Nov 30 2011, 01:52 PM.
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+ Pelador	Nov 30 2011, 01:54 PM Post #13
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I actually agree. I think the current USA is past saving. They need a fresh government with a new system.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Nov 30 2011, 11:38 PM Post #14
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	Chris Nov 28 2011, 03:05 AM We have been in Iraq for years and just getting out. But we are sending them over the Afgan. We are fighting false wars for oli. I think the leaders of this country have gone pretty far. We are even worse than the Nazis in invading countries. I fear that we will get our selves killed before anything. Now I am not hating my country but I am hating the fact we are in these wars. To be honest I think this country is near evil sometimes. What do you think of this? Do you think America is getting into more wars than they can handle. Are these wars unjust. America is the only one doing this right now. Bush is wanted as a war criminal in one country. Yes we have gone that far. I don't remember hearing any other country having a leader wanted. We are team america, world police, just like the romans. When the entire world puts stock into your country and everyone from across the globe makes an investment into you? you need to pay up. All of the countries in the united nations have a heavy investment in america and its capitalist policies. Its why they can send their people here with no issues. Since world war two its been hard for america to mind its own business when us and just about every country in this world gave a piece of themselves to each other for money and intelligence. Peace of mind. You cant attack us, we are your allies, see? we have consulates everywhere in every city of your country. Unless america kicks the united nations to the curb and stop following nato around then we could get back to what we were doing before ww2, building our country. In the end it comes down to two things, either america has an investment in whats going on, like with vietnam and iraq, or people have asked us for our help and we got involved. Now mind you that being a memebr of the united nations has made us vulenerable to all sorts of issues. Especially ones that only involve us because of our "friends"



+ Pelador	Nov 30 2011, 11:51 PM Post #15
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I have no idea how effective the UN is or even what it does. I actually think that in this day and age, countries should have a responsibility to look after each other. That doesn't mean anyone has the right to send in troops when they disagree with the ethics of another countries domestic policies. However if a country is suffering from famine or weather problems like floods and hurricanes then it's acceptable to help out right? I also think that instances of genocide should be dealt with too. or manybe it already is. As I said, I don't know exactl what the UN or Interpol for that matter actually do and whether they do it well.
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